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Nava v1.2 - How to disable mixer? (SOLVED)

Posted: Sep 2nd, '20, 08:30
by nicocr56
Hi,

I'm testing my first nava and I get a nasty noise from the mixer/master part. I use only individual outputs, so i decided to disconnect J14 and debug this part later.
I solved the noise issue, but all voices channels are mixed on each individual voice output (i.e.: on the BD i get all the other signals at lower levels).
After a look at 909 service manual, I decided isolate each output from the mixer by removing:
- R501 & 502 on the BD voice
- R504 & R505 on the SD voice
- ........
- ........
- R528 & R529 on the IDE voice
I still have the same issue, all active voices channels are mixed on each individual output. I don't understand how it is physically possible?

Thanks for your help!

Regards,

Nicolas

Re: Nava v1.2 - How to disable mixer?

Posted: Sep 2nd, '20, 22:48
by gihaume
The voices are mixed on the IO board I think.

A too weak voltage transformer may be the issue producing noise in the audio.

Re: Nava v1.2 - How to disable mixer?

Posted: Sep 3rd, '20, 07:44
by nicocr56
You're right, some guys upgrade to 1.3A PSU and they get a quieter noise. The noise has many sources. That's why i try to short it by disable the mixer.

For example, on the single BD output (J11 on I/O board), I get a clean BD sound with all instruments muted. When I play HC ( J12 on I/O board), I get HC played at high level on the BD output also.
I removed all resistors wich can link J11, J12, J13 and J14 together. So how the clean HC signal from J12 can still goes trough J11 and play on my monitors?

I missed something when i watched the schematics, but I would like to know what.

Is there any mods on nava pcb which can explain this "virtual links"?

Re: Nava v1.2 - How to disable mixer? (SOLVED)

Posted: Sep 6th, '20, 19:43
by nicocr56
Hi,

Vincent told me to check out my connectors and he was right!

The ground on the jack plug is coming from the main board by J14-2 and 4. I was thinking this ground part was suplied by the I/O board directly.
So, I got the signal on each ouput through each sleeve in open loop.
I solved this problem by simply reconecting the J14-2 and 2 cables to the GND on the main board. Now i get a quiet and clean sound.

Regards,

Nicolas